We do have the pleasure of having Doctor. Gary Samuelson on this call. It's my pleasure to stand beside him on this journey. I personally, physically wouldn't be here without this breakthrough technology. Doctor. Gary Samuelson is one of only a handful of atomic medical physicists in the world who led a team scientist and managed to stabilize these redox signaling molecules outside of the body, stabilized, balanced exactly the same way they found in healthy cells inside our bodies. So it's an absolute pleasure for us to have Doctor. Gary Samuelson himself on this call tonight. I'm going to hand over him to do a short presentation, and we can open up for a Q and A once he finishes. We do have a chat box if you want to ask questions through the chat box as well. So, welcome, doctor Gary, and thanks for coming on tonight. Thank you very much. It's a pleasure for me to be here. It's also nice that you take some time out of your evenings to to learn a little bit about science because you'll find probably that's all that I'm will be able to, speak to you about this evening. If it's alright, we can, start with a ten minute presentation on a review of redox signaling technology as it stands right now in in the world, if that if that's fine. Well, I'm doctor Gary Samuelson. I have a PhD in atomic medical physics, and it's a cross it's a cross disciplinary program also with the medical departments and so that I spent my career advising and investigating, different medical technologies in the in the, field. One of the most interesting medical technologies and probably the most fruitful one is a a technology called redox signaling. I'll explain it a little bit. It all starts with an oxygen molecule. As an atomic physicist, this is the way we look at a an oxygen molecule. Let's say, a nucleus has some protons inside and then electrons that there on the outside. Two of these electrons are unpaired electrons. They're called free radicals, and they cause the oxygen molecule to have special properties. One of the properties of an oxygen molecule is that it can be oxidized. We're gonna be talking about different oxidation states of oxygen tonight. Oxygen itself, is in a oxidation state that if gaining electron would put in a different one, it would become an a superoxide anion. As it gains another electron or is reduced, it becomes a peroxide anion. And then, hydroxyl free radical and, and also hydroxyl ion and other such species are altogether known as what they call reactive oxygen species. They're species that have the different oxidation states of oxygen. All that we'll be talking about tonight are have have to do with these oxidation states. One of the oxidation states of oxygen allows it to capture two hydrogens, and this allows it to make molecule molecule of water. This is what it looks like. Water molecule can have also a polar effect. It has positive side, and it has a negative side, which allows it to be, rearranged into different, structures. And we'll we'll be talking a little bit about that tonight also. But the first thing that, probably would be of interest is that in all biology and all life on earth, we are made out of a network of cells and interconnected tissues. And these interconnected tissues then also are interconnected, with the cells. We have a vast communication network that connects all of our cells in a in a wonderful and a and a beautiful, glorious way. This organization and orchestration between cells allows the cells to communicate and to, coordinate all of the activities that takes play that take place within them. And by activities, I mean, molecular activity. So this is where an atomic physicist actually plays. All cells are made out of interconnected molecules, some of them very complex molecules and proteins that carry on the processes of life inside the cell. The one thing that we want to, emphasize tonight is that all of this activity takes place in a bath of saltwater. And this, saltwater then interconnects all of the molecules and all of the fields that are that exist inside, living cells. Saltwater is the basic, fluid of life, the basic vital fluid, you know, that's inside every every single cell. And, this saltwater made out of water, of course, can be oxidized and reduced. And this, area of biology is called redox biochemistry, because the reduction and oxidation of the vital fluids also changes the nature of the chemical reactions that take place inside inside our cells. So if you were to appear inside a cell where all biochemistry takes place, as I mentioned before, this redox signaling or reduction in oxidation, states creates a network of of signaling in between the molecules that are inside of our cells. And this they they have special properties and special reasons, for, as in life, there is all there's always a a reason for for these different reactions. Oxygen, nutrients, and hydration and energy come into our cells through the membrane. And, most of the oxygen is introduced into an organelle called the mitochondria. The mitochondria has a very special purpose. It creates the cell. It's sort of like the fireplace, if you want to consider it, of the cell. It creates the energy that the cell produces, in the form of ATP, which is a is a very special molecule for that is the fuel for that purpose. Along with that, however, it also creates a series of oxidants, superoxides and hydrogen peroxide and reactive oxygen species, as we had mentioned before, which are different oxidation states of oxygen. And these, special oxidants inside the cell have a very important role. As they are produced by the mitochondria, they also, are able to float freely around the cell until they encounter one of the antioxidants. So our our cells produce oxidants and free radicals, and they then are eliminated by these antioxidants that also are placed in strategic areas in the cell. This has a very special purpose. It creates what they call a homeostatic balance inside, the cell. It's a redox balance, redox and oxidation balance, by which the oxidants are able to be reduced and eliminated at the same rate as they are created. It creates an equilibrium or a or a balance of, the oxidants inside the cell. This is very important just as a a fire, for example, is able to produce smoke. The smoke and free radicals from the fire can be damaging. If they're able to be controlled inside the cell, then they they form a perform, excuse me, a very important purpose. And that is when the cell is damaged for whatever reason, just as if a fire is damaged or fire is not ventilated correctly or there's something in your house that smells like smoke, you immediately know that some damage has been has taken place. And it's these very oxidants that are produced in excess that create a a state called oxidative stress that are able to push the genetic buttons necessary to start the repair and replace the mechanisms of the cell. If the cell is not able to repair itself, for example, within about two hours, it will be replaced. It'll kill itself and be replaced by healthy normal cells through cellular division in in the neighborhood. Explain just a little bit why this is important. If a damaged cell inside your body is able to survive, then, over time, it will divide into two damaged cells and four damaged cells, eight, sixteen, etcetera. And that propagates and spreads the damage throughout the organism. Aging, by the way, is is, one of the results of such damage that is propagated slowly throughout our our system. And so we need to be able to repair these cells. And these, smoke signals, if you will, the oxidants and free radicals are very important parts of the mechanisms that that program the cell to repair itself. The cell stops all its activity when it it smells, if you wanted to think of it this way, when it smells smoke or when it has an oxidative stress condition and starts to undergo the repair and replace process. Many, scientists have a specific interest in the redox signaling technology. James Watson, the person who discovered the structure of of, k of DNA, I'm sorry, inside the body, has now dedicated his entire career to, redox biochemistry. And, he says there's a delicate balance between two. We're talking about oxidation and reduction reactions. Physical act exercise promotes the body to make large amounts of oxidants, molecules called reactive oxygen species that we're talking about, and it helps forge the chemical bonds which stabilize proteins as they fold and also detect the damage in in the cells. These, men, for example, were able to earn a Nobel Prize for their work in the g protein coupled receptors, which have a a great deal to do with the redox signaling. Here's another redox signaling molecule made from nitrogen, from, what they call reactive nitrogen species or nitric oxide, is part of those. And, they they own the sorry, the Nobel Prize for that. There's also, several books that have been, published, journals specifically dedicated to this subject, conferences all over the world. And, we're starting to realize for the first time that the antioxidants are not just the things that are found in foods, and they get rid of these terrible oxidants inside of our body. That that's actually a myth. What we're starting to understand now is that we need a perfect balance of antioxidants and oxidants in order to be able to create a healthy cell and normal life processes. They work in conjunction. They're partners. They're equal partners. And the most important thing then is that we have a balance between the these two these two things, and they create a a signaling network that allow the detect and to detect the damaged cells that are inside the body and start the repair process. Without this process, healing would be absolutely impossible. We need a detection, a repair, and replace mechanism. I'm going to go on a little bit, just a little bit deeper, I suppose. This is an interesting experiment that was done with the regeneration of a tadpole tail. It is a tadpole. If you cut their tail off, they'll regenerate their tail. And down at the bottom, the tadpoles are transparent, so you can see through them. They put in fluorescent dyes that were able to, detect the oxidation of the tissue, the oxidation states. And if you notice at the bottom, the, part of the tail that is regenerating has the highest oxidation. That's the in the reds and the yellows in in the tail. And then when the tail has finished its regeneration cycle, the oxidants all of a sudden disappear. So this the science scientist decided, well, we're going to get rid of the oxidants by putting certain antioxidants in the mix and see if that affects regeneration of the tissue of the tail. And they found that when they put certain antioxidants inside a mix, that the tail was not able to regenerate. And so what we are finding that this reactive oxygen species actually is important for the regeneration of tissue, for the detection, the repair, and the replacement of of tissue. Up to this point, we were only able to do this in inside side of living animals because mitochondrial ROS, which is required for tissue regeneration, was only able to be produced and stabilized inside living cells. We we have been able to to stabilize it outside of living cells and then reintroduce it now in into living tissue, and this this is a a quite a discovery. Okay. Well, James Watson, says that if we can do so, we can use reactive oxygen species to prevent the occurrence of several problems such as type two diabetes, dementia, cardiovascular disease. So this is this is the reason for the, ongoing study of this, subject. And, again, is emphasized that, you know, the reactive oxygen species is an important player, as the Janek says in his paper. It's widely accepted that ROS plays a crucial physiological role in diseases and also in cellular homeostasis, which means balance or in this. So as mentioned before, we are able to take these reactive oxygen species perfectly balanced set, place them inside a bottle, the same balanced species that exist inside cells. We've done the research that show that these compounds exist, and they're completely biocompatible and bioavailable. By the time that, I was able to to come in contact with this technology, it it had already had sixteen years of study. It was only able to be produced by a machine. We we were able to stabilize it, prove that it's, again, bio biocompatible and bioactive. And there's a couple of things that we we we saw right at the beginning. One was that it increased the efficacy of the endogenous, the internal antioxidants inside of our body. Those are not the ones that are taken in by foods, but the ones that our cells produce. It increased the efficacy of those by four hundred percent, and this caught my attention. It also releases n r f two, which starts this defense repair and replace mechanism in cells. So it was it was very, interesting. NRF two, by the way, is is one of the primary defense mechanisms that the cells have. It releases those as the primary defense mechanism, but also as a repair and replace mechanism. Microbes, by the way, were killed in under thirty seconds, with with these, redox signaling molecules. That was, because the body uses these as antimicrobial agents against everything that exists. In fact, the immune system uses these same molecules, the these oxidized species to kill bacteria. And but it had no effect on the the, beneficial flora in my in our microbiome, in our gut. And we have we have several human studies that that show this. Cell cultures also showed no inflammatory markers, no cytokines, no inflammation, nothing, stimulated in in, in living cells. Antioxidant efficiencies increased. It accelerated the kill rate of the cells only in cells that had become damaged past repair, and increased its sensitivity to to some hormones. And in some cases, it actually reversed the aging of cells, the the aging of cells on a cellular level, which we call senescence. It has some very important effects. One one, opened effect is that it opens up the detox channels in our cells. It allows the toxins that are in our blood to make it out through the gut, out through our intestines, and also also through our kidneys. It stimulates antioxidants in humans. We know that because the glue the oxidized glutathione that is in our blood goes down. Also, the oxidized LDL cholesterol levels, down in in blood in in our human trials, which is one of the causes of of of heart disease. It activate it is the same, signaling messenger system that activates stem cell adhesion and differentiation, and it also is a key to, to start cell regeneration cycles. We we have we have something that's very important. One one thing that, we found now in twenty two years of of studies, over thirty studies that have been done both in cells and humans have shown that there's absolutely no toxicity whatsoever. In one study, for example, in in, animals, animals were given orally, but the equivalent of four ounces would be in a in a human before running on a treadmill, and they found out that, animals on a treadmill could run twenty nine percent or these these little mice could run twenty nine percent longer with ASEA than with, just the saltwater placebo that they were given. The human metabolism also goes shifts. It goes undergo shifts when we are when, in this, we checked two hundred and sixty indicators of the human metabolism. And, over sixty two of them shifted in a in a way that we believe is to preserve energy. So we have mice running longer. We have glycogen depletion, which just means our energy reserves are are going up. Increased antioxidant efficacies, less oxidized glutathione, and less oxidized LDL cholesterol in humans. And absolutely and in animals too too. Well, in humans also, but in animals also. And zero, there's close to zero effect toxic effects as you can have in for any substance, including saltwater itself, saline. We have fifty thousand people using it. Every they, have also run studies on skin. And, I'm going very quickly here because I'm sure that you have questions. Twenty three percent wrinkle depth, reduction in blotches, smoothness, elasticity, etcetera of the skin, was was, dramatically improved. Oxygenation of the skin also was increased by over sixteen percent, and the cell turnover, cell regeneration in skin, was sped up also, was accelerated again by by about sixteen percent. We, have also studied the cells that are in the cardiovascular systems extensively, finding that, it helps carry messages through our caricardiovascular system, the the redox signaling, messengers, specifically to find damage in in our bodies, it also helps in hormonal balance. In almost every aspect of hormonal transmission, we found that it increases the reception of certain hormones, including insulin and the thyroid hormones. The current skin health research also, we already took a look at that. Lung tissue, incredible incredible results on lung tissue. We looked at lung endothelial cells and, in in many of these studies and found found a regeneration and increase in glutathione in in these cells. Digestive, system also, we don't have many, studies on this, but we do know that it it preserves the natural beneficial microbiome in our in our digestive system. Service system also requires a very careful redox balance. We we believe that, redox balances help help to be maintained, and the reduction of, of oxidative stress in the brain also causes a reduction of of anxiety and certain symptoms. Overall, there's an absolutely, incredible results. There are there are incredible results in many ways, but the thing that impressed me is that this technology has the probably the greatest, I believe, will will create and fuel the greatest advances in in medical science that that we've seen so far because they are directly involved with cellular regeneration, reducing oxidation. They're completely safe. They mediate and regulate many of the mechanisms that restore balance and regenerate tissue, and it optimizes many many cell functions. So I am completely absorbed in this technology right now. I think it's the greatest thing in the world. I think I'll tie I'll turn the time over to, to Kathleen or or to Dan then, for questions. You answered all the questions, doctor Gary, that I didn't think I had. No. That was fantastic. That that did clear up a lot for me, and, you know, we try and go out there and and share these people with, standing like an atomic medical physicist, obviously, and, and try and get that there in layman's terms so people understand. But that was that was incredible for me. We've got, doctor Datenon, if if you guys would like to ask any questions while we've got Gary Samuelson. Chris, also, if you've got any questions, you'd like to unmute yourself, more than welcome. We've got him. He's, this is a very rare situation. Couple of questions. I've been using the product for not long, maybe a cup cup couple weeks, two, three weeks, something like that. And is there one thing that I just personally have attention on? My blood pressure is a little high. When I'm talking to Kaylene, she said, you know, oftentimes when you start, the blood pressure will go up because the cells would be calcifying and and and and that'll tend to come back come back down. Is it is there any general time frame in which that might occur? And I understand you're not making any commitments that this handles blood pressure or whatever, but I'm assuming it'll help. No. Well, basically, from the medical doctors that have been using this, drinking sufficient water, probably about ten glasses a day, is is good to help this process happen. It will, with the NRF two activation, throw a lot of toxins into very beginning because it's detoxifying, like you said, your your fat tissues and and such that have built up. And this this can, in in a sense, raise blood pressure because the the body is trying to get rid of these toxins. And, but it like, like I said, about three weeks or four weeks in into this if you're taking about two ounces twice a day. How much are you taking? I'm taking about eight ounces a day. Eight ounces, four ounces twice a day? I I take I take four ounces in the morning and then two two ounce shots later in the day. Okay. Great. Yeah. You should, you should see, a normalization in about three to four weeks. You should be start seeing it right now. Okay. Good. That that's, that's great to know. And the other question is is similar to this or at least along this line. Is there a process? In other words, do the benefits tend to build up over time? I've noticed that, yes, they do because it helps detect and repair damaged cells. Little by little, you start seeing different things happening in your body. Veins, vascular tone, for example, increases in in some women visibly. You're you're able to see your athletic ability and the muscle soreness and such go away if if that if you are athletically inclined. But, I noticed that because I used to run track, and when I started taking, the product, I was able to run again. And I was able to run long distances and and not not get sore as as I used to before. That that for me, that was that was wonderful. Yeah. I'm I've noticed that I live on a hill, and so I I used to run, years ago, but, kinda got to my knees and stuff. But I I I walk up this hill every day. It's a pretty steep hill. I live in the mountains. And I've noticed that it's, easier. I don't, I'm not getting as much oxygen deficit or whatever that is. It just seems to be as as you know, and and full range such that, it's it's it's easier to get it pulled up. Anyway, those are the those are the two main questions I had. I I I think you've answered them. And if I think of anything else, I'll I'll I'll unmute myself again. Thank you, doctor. Oh, great. Thank you, Bruce. Thanks for coming. Yeah. One question that has come up, doctor Samuelson, with some of the folks that we're working with is There are a lot of people who have issues with heavy heavy metals. What can you tell us about the heavy metals? I think that was doctor day Dayton. Is that is that right? Yes. Well, what I heard was a little bit muffled, but it it, you said, what about heavy metals, I think, if I if I heard that right? Yeah. NRF two and glutathione is a good chelator, for for heavy metal toxicity. Yes, Dan? And and so, one of the things that we've seen is that, the and heavy metals are able to be released from the body when glutathione is activated, when it's more effective. And so, we we know that ASEA activates glutathione. We know that it activates NRF two in the body. And so we we have also seen, an increase in in urine heavy metals and increase in other heavy metals when when people are taking, taking ASEA, especially for the first time. I'm sorry. Did that did that help, answer the question, doctor Dayton? I actually answered that, doctor Gary. No. That was fantastic because we got a lot of people that do have issues with heavy metals. So, but doctor Dave, you're you're on the line. Would you like to ask any questions while we've got doctor Gary Samuelson? Possible. Maybe he can't hear us. I'm not really sure. I have him unmuted, but We do have a chat box too if you want to, ask any questions in the chat box if you have any project problems with your microphone. One of the things often that comes up, I'll ask a question from health practitioners we we are talking to, is if they wanna get their own certainty on the science behind it, doctor Samuelson, because maybe they're not familiar with redox biochemistry. Where are good places for them to do their own research? Okay. Well, besides, you know, the general references to reactive oxygen species and, redox biochemistry, which are extensive. Specific research can be found, in the ASEA website and, otherwise, through some of the health professionals, but it's proprietary. And so ASEA releases that as as it sees fit. One of the problems that we've had, Kathleen, is that many of the early studies were actually done, when this was considered for a pharmaceutical. And so, we can't make any claims, and so, therefore, we can't publish any any any results from from those types of studies. But, yes, we can there there have been more than twenty two years of studies and over thirty studies, as I mentioned before, in all in all sorts of situations. There's one thing that we I can vouch for absolutely, that it is it is absolutely safe. We we, have not seen not even one indication in any animal or in any person or any subject, one indication of toxicity whatsoever. And, so that that that's one of the things that, that we can say from from the studies. Hopefully, that, it answers part of your question there, Kathleen. Definitely. And another thing that comes up too that's confusing when we encourage maybe someone to talk to their doctor about the product in coordination with their other nutrition or body protocol or treatment Is is it high in sodium, and how do I make sure it's not a diuretic or it's not gonna affect my sodium levels? No. Well, ASEA has has about as much sodium as a carrot and a half or two carrots. So if you can replace two carrots in your diet, you're fine taking ASEA. You know, there's very, very little sodium in ASEA. Very good. Doctor Gary, I, I've heard you talk about before when it comes to addictions. I have a lot of people that do stop smoking in a very short period of time or reduce their alcohol or, you know, come off what they're addicted to, and I've heard you talk about something balancing within the body apart from the detox. Yeah. Hallelujah. Congratulations to those people who who finally, you know, are trying to turn around. You know, I I have a very good friend, doctor Rob Ward, who is an addiction, had ran an addiction clinic for over fifteen years. And, he said that he was able to have more results in in one year with ASEA than he did in all fifteen years of his practice before because it helps to reduce the anxiety of these people who are trying to get off of the of the addictions. So, yes, it has a great has a wonderful effect. And, also, we talk to a lot of health practitioners around the world who are working closely with them just in regards to the results they're getting for their patients, and a lot of the naturopaths obviously have got their patients or their clients on a good alkaline diet, and they're saying to us that the results they're getting in six months, twelve months, eighteen months, they're now getting in three weeks, six weeks, and twelve weeks. Yeah. Yeah. I I see healing vastly accelerated. Healing that normally takes place in in seconds. I mean, I'm sorry. Normally takes place in minutes, takes place in seconds. So, you know, one one thing that I I mentioned once in a while to practitioners is that if you have a hemorrhaging or bleeding, ASEA helps to, to cut down the bleeding or to stop bleeding. And you you start to see, the the closure and processes that normally take minutes to take that take place in seconds. And then the process that normally take hours to complete take place in just minutes. And so it's fascinating to watch. If if you ever have a cut or a lesion of any any sort and you place a CEA on there, you can actually see, the the results taking place right before your eyes. It's not difficult to see. And and that's true, you know, for long term things too. Some veterans that have scars for twenty years have said or I've seen, have, the scarring actually reduced. After after several months of taking ASEA, their their scars start to be become, small white lines, and, that that's certainly not a placebo effect. That's a that's actual physiological effect. We have a question in the chat box from Bruce that's just asking, does the product have to be taken on empty stomach? Are the results negated if one takes it shortly after eating or what is the significance on taking it on empty stomach if that's the most beneficial? Of course, that's the most beneficial. You get the most absorption. However, ASEA goes through water channels, which are absorbed in just minutes anyway, whether or not you have a full stomach. I suggest that you take it five minutes before you eat every meal, five to ten minutes before you eat at least. And this this just to make sure that that, your digestive tract and everything is is open and ready for it to absorb the SCA. Another question we had at one point is why, do the digestive enzymes in the stomach not harm the molecules in any way? Oh, well, that that's a very good question. I had that was one of my first. So, you know, the question is why in the world there are these molecules so stable? Because they they should not be stable as stable as they are, and so I I we studied those. And they actually have, configurations which are combinations of mixture of this proprietary substance that allow it to become stable enough to resist a a lot of, chemical effects. The the enzymes, of course, will break them down, but it it won't break them down immediately. It'll it takes several minutes. And in those several minutes, these are absorbed into the body and can, have their effect. Now what when we're taking several minutes, well, here's here's another, thing that we've found. In the metabolic, in the what they call the metabolomics experiments for humans, we specifically looked at the effect on the metabolism over time. And what we found is that after taking four ounces only in the morning, the metabolic shifts that we saw were able to be seen up to twenty four hours later. So it was being absorbed into the body. It was being, and then, it took effect in the metabolism. You know, there's physiological effects. That's really interesting. Another question that's come up is when a person is replenishing their molecules with this product, does it ever start to bypass the body's own natural production of redox molecules over time where then the body, you know, is not producing as much and that or if a person stops taking the product, again, the somehow it's own their own natural production of the molecules are diminished? Yeah. The mitochondrial production of, the redox signaling molecules and natural production has to do with the metabolism of sugar. So we'd have to slow down the metabolism of sugar. That doesn't happen. In fact, if anything, it shows that maybe the efficiency of the mitochondria to to burn fatty acids is increased, not diminished. And and so, what we'd expect almost is maybe even an increase in the natural production of redox signaling molecules when we ingest, the same. So, no, there isn't a there isn't a counter regulatory effect. There's no dependencies that build up. No. Sorry. We've had people ask if you could actually physically test somebody's natural production of redox signaling molecules and how much they'd be producing at, at that stage or age in their life. Yes. You can. Since it's directly proportional to mitochondrial activity, we can see that the mitochondria, or the metabolism does slow down over time. In fact, significantly, when you're ten years old, if you say that's about a hundred percent of of, mitochondrial activity, by the time you're seventy years old, you're you're at, maybe twenty percent, if you're lucky, or thirty percent of the mitochondrial efficacy, which also means that the redox signaling molecules, are slower. Cellular regeneration is slower. Autoimmune response is slower. Things kinda slow down as you as you age, possibly because of the reduction of these molecules in your body. Sorry. Doctor Dayton's come in with a couple of questions. Has anyone published clinical outcome studies is the first question. We have no published studies. All are proprietary. ASEA owns the rights to those, and so you'd have to speak directly to the the company in order to be able to receive those. There there are a lot of things out there, but Is there any direct ration of benefit with the amount taken? I hear you. Doctor Dayton asked you, is it is it beneficial more beneficial taking, say, eight ounces twice a day than four ounces twice a day, actually taking a larger amount? It depends on, the, really on the topography of the damage that's in your body. If you have large scale damage in in many areas of your body, it it sometimes takes much more. So I've we've seen that up to eight ounces twice today is effective if you have large scale damage. It seems to it seems to be more effective. For normal, healthy people, usually only about two ounces twice a day is is fine. For some people who are trying to detoxify, at times, it's a good idea to sometimes go below that amount and take smaller amounts more often during during the day. So, it it really depends on the person. But, you know, the general rule is if if you can't tolerate it very well, take less. If you seem to if it seems to not have exactly the effect that you need, take more at least for a few days, up to maybe eight ounces twice a day and, see if your body reacts. One thing that you'll find if you if your body starts to react, that the immune system, starts to, attack the damaged cells and which takes a lot of, energy. So you might find lack of energy. You also might find that there's there's, there's a detox effect, and you drink a lot of water, and then almost all cases that that takes care of those problems. Doctor Samuelson, is there a, I've had a too much that you can take where your body then just becomes saturated with these molecules? Yeah. I mean, you some people take two two bottles a day or something something like that. But becoming saturated is, is something that it I don't think is, possible because your body just has enzymes that break this down. So the ex excess is broken back down into salt and water. And, the only effect that you have is a drain on your wallet. Well said. And, you know, sometimes when a person starts replenishing their molecules, if they do have a health challenge or a condition, they'll visibly see it get worse or physically feel it get worse. How would you help them understand what their body is going through or prepare for that to potentially happen? If you, have ever come back from a a sick a period of sickness, you know, and you realize that the kids have destroyed your house, You you'll you'll realize that, you know, when you finally have energy and an inhibition to clean up, it'll take a little bit of energy. But not only that, you know, you'll have accumulation of garbage, and you'll have to throw that garbage out. The body is is very much like that. When, you've been sick for a while or inactive for a while and your body realizes it is trying to clean up, you will feel a little bit drained. And then, of course, the the detox as as it throws as your cells start to throw the garbage out. Drinking a lot of water will will be helpful in that in that case, but it does get a little bit worse before it gets better, and that's just the nature of things. Well, we're coming up on the, inspect. I know you're on the line. I don't know if you've got any questions before, we wrap up and, send this incredible man back to his beautiful wife. I think John, I've I've I think we might have doctor Dayton, Bruce, any more questions before we let doctor Gary Samuelson go? I was just gonna say I've unmuted John Cagnola. So, John, you should be able to talk. Oh, thanks. I didn't know I was unmuted. Doctor Samuelson, can you hear me? Hello, John. Yes. I can hear you. Yes. Thank you very much. I found the presentation, very informative. You know, it was stimulating, and it answered a lot of questions that I did have. I've been having quite a bit of success with addressing scars, a sebaceous cyst, gone as a result of the gel, and, been pleased with that. So can you address the situation of, it affecting, maybe withdrawal? That's possible? Withdrawal symptoms? Is that right? Yes. I'd be interested in that. Yes. Well, one of the, problems with toxicity in the brain and neuroinflammation is that there's there's oxidative stress build in the emotional centers of the brain, which lock the lock the body into, the stress response. Reduction of oxidative stress is something that the c that a c is very good with, the the redox signaling molecules are very good with. So in reducing the oxidative stress in the emotional centers, it also helps to reduce the anxiety and and the stress response helps the body to get back into normal, hormonal balance also. And, we've we've found, as I mentioned before, through doctors that have been in drug rehabilitation, specifically, you know, rehabilitation from prescription drugs and and such that, it takes the edge off so so that they can sleep during the night, and they can they can feel at ease. And and, that that helps. Of course, you also need a great network of caring people that will help help the people through their their addiction cycles. That that's important also, as you know. Yeah. That's appreciated. Does exercise, would exercise help with, you know, absorption or the circulation of the molecules or how much and the effects? Exercise is the only thing that can produce these molecules inside your body. So, you know, this is what James Watson has been doing. He's been spending billions of dollars or well, he's he's trying to raise billions of dollars to see how the effects of different types of exercise can increase the amount of reactive oxygen species and these molecules inside your body. He isn't aware that we have that we have stabilized these and that that they can be used. I don't I don't know if, he have ever will become aware. I'm not sure. But but, our clinical studies with humans show that and they take this, the metabolic balances are, that and the people that have have, taken ASEA are similar to those that have exercised for several minutes, if not hours. And so, the answer is yes. Exercise does increase the these molecules. It increases cell regeneration, and it it's wonderful. Thank you. Last question that I can think of right now is how about diet? Is are there certain diets that would augment the effects of of the redox molecules, sugar, for instance, or high carbohydrates tend to have a limiting or or problematic effect at all? Yeah. They have a detrimental effect, on this. Actually, if you're going to take the redox signaling molecules and you want the maximal effect, of course, you need to also have a good diet, which, well, I say is basically lots of greens, lots of vegetables, lots of multicolored vegetables. In fact, as many, colors as you can get on your plate. Learn how to cook them. A little bit of meat is okay. And that that basically, I think, is the is the best diet. High carb diets and such create an excess of the the, molecules. In fact, so so much of an excess that they cause damage. So they they flip the balance the other way where you have chronic oxidative stress in your veins and and in your pancreas and your organs and such, due to the too high of a level of a glycemic index in your blood. That was very helpful. I appreciate that. I'm turning it back over to, to Kaylene. Thanks, John. I also know that we have another caller that I wanna apologize, you've been muted with the area code seven three four. So you're unmuted now if you'd like to ask a question. Oh, you can hear me? Yes. We can hear you now. Oh, okay. This is Nick. Okay. I heard about the intestinal tract. This is very exciting because I don't know how many millions of people have intestinal problems. And, you you mentioned about the the microorganisms, the beneficial microorganisms staying alive in the intestinal tract. Have you done any testing on that? And the reason being, my cousin is a paraplegic, a t twelve, so, he basically put the belly button down. He has no feeling. And for years, every time he goes to the bathroom, he would lose blood. And that's a combination of hemorrhoids and and a lot of sitting. Well, after three days, there hasn't been a drop, not a drop of blood. And that started, we started him on that, three weeks ago. And so what's even more exciting is he hasn't been able to control his bowel movements. So he has accidents, a lot of accidents, and this has been a problem because he just crossed France a few years ago and climbed the exit tower, and he always you know, he has accidents. For almost every single day for the last week, he hasn't had an accident. So I'm blown away. Like, you you definitely have my attention. And just wondering, has there been any studies done on the bacteria? Because there's so much going on in there with the, the hair inside of the intestine. Are we rebuilding anything? Are we just repairing skin tissue? Any information. Go ahead. Okay. Great. No. With ASEA itself, we have, a large clinical study, which looked at the microbiome before and after taking, four ounces a a day of ASEA and, found that there was absolutely no difference in microbiome between people that were taking ASEA and and people that were not or before and after, either case. So it it tends to show that there's there's no negative effects. How however, you know, it is antimicrobial, and we ask, well, how how does how does the body tell a difference? Somehow the body knows the difference between, you know, the beneficial flora and the ones that are not and and tends to protect the beneficial flora. I've been working with the scientists the last couple of years now, that is that has been focused has focused on the, health of the gut. And and we I wish I could tell you some of the things that that are going on, but there there are tight binding proteins inside the gut that hold these cells together. Gluten tend tends to tear these tight binding proteins apart, as well as does glyphosate in some insecticides and herbicides. They they tear these things apart, so there's large damage in the cell in the intestines. There's also leaks. The leaky gut allows toxins and larger molecules to get into the blood and causes inflammatory reactions in the gut and and etcetera, which can be manifest by bleeding and such. When when these, tissues are able to then, regenerate faster than they degenerate, we're winning the battle. So so, it's able to regenerate help regenerate tissue faster than it's degenerating. There are also car carbon based molecules that that can help, restore these type binding, molecules in the gut. There there there's a lot of things that we can do to work on, on the gut these days. That's, that is very exciting. One more. In plant science, I've worked with some of the national crop growing champions that, grow the most corn and the most soybeans here in the United States. We took a microscope, and we're looking at the beneficial bacteria in the soil profile. Mhmm. And then so we put it in plant roots. And what we found was, the plant would ex excrete water through the root. The beneficial bacteria would absorb it Yep. Through their life cycle and then produce a few hundred babies and then die, and then the plant would absorb the dead bacteria. And what we found was, yield, the health of a crop, the yield is determined by the, the beneficial bacteria in the root system. So it's basically just like the human intestine. And I'm just wondering, and I can't find any research on this, but if we strengthen the beneficial bacteria and we actually ingest the bacteria into our our bloodstream. That's a food source for rebuilding the body. I'm just wondering if there's any connection there, and has there been any work like that done? Oh, my We have a lot of theories we have a lot of theories on that. I'm just wondering. Yes. No. You are absolutely right. The ecology of the bacterial, bacteria in our body is absolutely essential. We only have thirty thousand genes at most in our body, which means we can help produce about thirty thousand proteins. But yet we use and utilize over two hundred thousand, proteins in our body. Where does the other hundred and seventy thousand come from? And the answer is the bacteria. The bacteria Got it. The bacteria genome actually is more important to produce proteins in our body than the than the, gen genomic makeup of our own body itself. We're more we're more bacterial proteins than we are human. So so the, the the it's very interesting. Yes. The, microbiome that we have have inside of ourselves is absolutely essential to to keep that balance. And as we destroy the bacteria through our agricultural processes, we're also destroying the nutrients that we have available in our foods. And it's a very serious concern, and I'm glad that you brought it up tonight. Well, that's exciting. You just made my night. I'll tell you why. Because I've had this theory for a number of years because we had a large livestock operation. What happened to the animals, they had a disease, and they could no longer absorb enough nutrients. They were, they were protein deficient even though they had plenty in their diet. And what we discovered through, through postmortems was that those hairs in the intestine were destroyed. Yes. And so, now if we can rebuild those, I don't know how many people on the planet have diarrhea problems because their intestinal walls have been destroyed. And then on top of that, you think about our diet, the number of preservatives like MSG that are in our food that actually kill or mutate the beneficial bacteria in our intestine. So if you take a CF, we start reversing this. Okay? You made my night. So Could could you do me thousand extra protein. Yeah. Go ahead. Could you do me a favor? If Dan or Kathleen could take your email, I can send you then, quite a bit of information on, and studies on this. Good. That'd be great. Yeah. Nick, I can get your I can we can talk, and I'll get your email and send that to doctor Samuelson. Okay? Okay. I appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah. One more question from doctor Dayton, doctor Samuelson. Just one more question. With topping up with these molecules, what are the effects on the issue where the immune system is attacking the body? And the other issue, which is a situation I was in, which was the worst case scenario for anybody on the planet. Wonderfully enough, the immune system has a detection mechanism, which is able to distinguish between damaged cells and and healthy normal cells. When that detection mechanism breaks down, then it can start it it will actually get its signals crossed and start attacking healthy cells, and that's an autoimmune problem. So what what, we have seen with ASEA is that it helps the communication system. I call it I call it the cell phone, to become more clear. So you get more bars on your cell phones. The communication is clear, and there's a better distinction between damaged and healthy, damaged and healthy cells. The body, when taken with ASEA, will actually, be biased against the damaged cells, attack the damaged cells as as it should, and then help to protect and and, and regenerate the healthy cells. And that's a natural process. ASEA helps that process along. Is is that is that well, does that do it for you, Dan? Yeah. Yeah. I know that, when anybody asks a question, when it comes to what about this issue or that issue, we ask the question that you ask back, is there a sell involved? Yeah. Well, it's it's remarkable. This is the very process that helps, the cells to recognize and repair the damage that takes place. Here here's the way I think of it. If if we were able to repair our damaged cells, what does that mean? What does that mean to our health? That's well said. So I Absolutely. Oh, good. Yeah. Are you still with us? I was just gonna I wanted to thank you, Doctor. Samuelson. Would you believe he's dropped off? He's done all that hard work and he's dropped off. We were gonna acknowledge him and say, you know, thank you for your dedication to this incredible science because for those of you just meeting him for the first time, he's dedicated a significant part of his life to helping us really understand what these molecules are and making sure they were stabilized so that we could use them as a resource. So definitely continue to tune in and learn as much as you can about redox biochemistry and ASEA itself and ask questions of of the folks that are sharing more information, about it with you as well. Any anything else you'd like to say to the to the crew tonight? Yeah. Thanks for keeping it on, everybody. Yeah. Doctor Gary Samuelson, I mean, he's he's dedicated his life to helping humanity. You know, because of him, I'm I'm here, which is fantastic, but, there's a lot of people out there that shouldn't be here that are still, and, he's done an incredible job of not only with Redox City Molecules and what he's done there, but he continues his research to help people in however however way he can. So thanks for coming on, guys. Really appreciate it. And with that note, we'll, we'll say goodbye to everyone. Have a good night.